Locked How much do you trust Windows Defender?

[Ravn]

Hi, i'm using free/paid/c***** Internet Security software since i started working with pc's. And now i am using Kaspersky (pls no discussion over russia is using that for a bot network or something like that) Internet Security. But its getting on my nerves. Now that want a email for the Trial time, just like about every other security software. And i want to stay safe when i surf/download and etc. (I know nothing is safe if its connected to the internet. But you know what i mean). All the real good Security software is either not c****** ( like bitdefender), blocks too much or doesnt have a "learning mode". Thats why i would like to give Defender a try.

What i would like to know, is what do you think about Defender. What Security software do you use? Do you pay for it, is it free or is it c******?

 

[BoboN]

ATM. I only useing Windows defender, have acutaly never used others, its find what its need, and so it is easy to found out... - Sometimes I use malwarebytes as a extra check, but I delete it again after check.. - So at all I only use Windows defender

 

[Ravn]

ATM. I only useing Windows defender, have acutaly never used others, its find what its need, and so it is easy to found out... - Sometimes I use malwarebytes as a extra check, but I delete it again after check.. - So at all I only use Windows defender

Can you make like a folder that it doesnt inspect? And when you start a ***** or anything else, does it asks you if it should block it and just click on to let the program run? Or do you have to get it back from the quarantine everytime?

 

[BoboN]

Can you make like a folder that it doesnt inspect? And when you start a ***** or anything else, does it asks you if it should block it and just click on to let the program run? Or do you have to get it back from the quarantine everytime?

yes,

If you push Real to close before you unzipping your c**** files så no problems

 

[fantom]

First thing after windows installation, for me, is to remove defender and edge! Never use it!
I Use ESET for years!

 

[testament]

I use ESET Smart Security and every 30 days (or less) before the key expires i have a new key from ESET.
The only things you want to have are:
a. to download once the software from ESET (what you prefer, Antivirus-Internet Security-Smart Security-Endpoint)
b. a temporary mail to register
c. a storng password.

ESET it isn't the best antivirus but i don't want to download cr@ck antivirus versions.
Also i have completely remove Windows Defender from the installed Windows iso with MSMG Toolkit

 

[Cyler]

With every such question, you mostly get 2 kinds of answers. Subjectives and Objectives.

Subjective because each PC, each user, and each use scenario is different.
* A lot depends on your user's behavior. Do you download from trusted sources or whatever you find? Do you open every email you see? Half the protection starts from knowing what to do but most important, what NOT to do.
* It depends on PC specs up to a point. Let's say an a/v uses 1 core to do a scan. If you have a dual-core that means it uses 50% of your CPU, if you have a 6-core it uses 16% of your CPU and if you have a 12-core it uses only 8%... So is it heavy and slow at 50% or light and fast at 8%???
* Do you download and update a lot of files like more than 500 a day?? A/v will take more resources than if you download a program every week. A/V doesn't rescan things they already did unless there is a change.
* Do you use SSD, NVMe, or old spinner disks? Performance depends a LOT on this factor alone.

So If one uses a dual-core with a spinner disk, any antivirus will suck and slow the PC down a lot, if I use a 6core and SSD, you probably won't even feel it. That's why opinions are subjective.

Objective answers are the answers you can get from independent labs (avoid the mainstream "tests" as those are paid advertisements) and see statistics and compare on your own. For example https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/
The image speaks for itself

Comparing apples to apples.
Defender is NOT an antivirus only. It protects Windows files and your files from ransomware by restricting access to document folders and so you will never see your files renamed. It offers account protection (offline and online), antitamper protection, and many more while other antivirus offers less. My point tho here is when you have an APP that does 10 different things, it's not fair to compare it with an app that does 2 of those, even tho they are both antiviruses and you need to weigh this in.
It's like asking 1 person to do 10 things, another to do 2 things, and then wondering why the person that does 2 things finishes faster.

So my suggestion and subjective answer based on personal experience on my own PCs and clients' PCs is that Defender is an excellent program but you should check and form your own opinion. After all, why not test-drive it? Install a Windows with Defender, set it to which folders to scan and which not, let a couple of days pass, and see how your life is. If you don't like it, remove it with one of the many tools on the net.

 

[Vorgarag]

Hi, how to remove windows defender ? What tool you use, i tried winaero but it doesn't disable it, i also tried the tutorials about changing windows registry to disable it, but it didn't work. i am using win10 neon gamer.

 

[BoboN]

Hi, how to remove windows defender ? What tool you use, i tried winaero but it doesn't disable it, i also tried the tutorials about changing windows registry to disable it, but it didn't work. i am using win10 neon gamer.

ex. this: >>This<< can do it for you

 

[Jerry_Xristos]

Hi, how to remove windows defender ? What tool you use, i tried winaero but it doesn't disable it, i also tried the tutorials about changing windows registry to disable it, but it didn't work. i am using win10 neon gamer.

Try this one to totally disable it

Direct - Defender Remover 12.5.0 *TeamOS*

Defender Remover is a tiny tool that enables you to turn off the Windows embedded antivirus for good. Don’t fret, as you can turn it back on again, if you happen to change your mind. Run the tool and select your option to get started The application doesn’t require installation or...

www.teamos.xyz

If you want to remove it try this one
DISM++

 

[Vorgarag]

Thank you for fast answers, i tried Defender Remover, and removed Windows defender, but after restarting it is shown in services list that it is still running. Then i tried Defender control to disable it and i says, Windows Defender service not found.

 

[Mohic4n]

.... subjective answer based on personal experience on my own PCs and clients' PCs is that Defender is an excellent program but you should check and form your own opinion...

I quote that !!
Defender is a very well build all around software that really do a very good job. Especially the latest versions for Windows 10 and 11 are completely different from previous older ones.
I have it on a lot of my clients and don't have problems for years... They are not the kind of download stuff from internet or whatever receive in their emails.
For business environments always insist on paid products, BitDefender, F-Secure, Eset, are some of what I propose, without meaning that other software is not good.
Best thing to do is try them yourself and decide what you like most.

 

[sandyss18]

With every such question, you mostly get 2 kinds of answers. Subjectives and Objectives.

Subjective because each PC, each user, and each use scenario is different.
* A lot depends on your user's behavior. Do you download from trusted sources or whatever you find? Do you open every email you see? Half the protection starts from knowing what to do but most important, what NOT to do.
* It depends on PC specs up to a point. Let's say an a/v uses 1 core to do a scan. If you have a dual-core that means it uses 50% of your CPU, if you have a 6-core it uses 16% of your CPU and if you have a 12-core it uses only 8%... So is it slow at 50% or fast at 8%???
* Do you download and update a lot of files like more than 500 a day?? A/v will take more resources than if you download a program every week. A/V doesn't rescan things they already did unless there is a change.
* Do you use SSD, NVMe, or old spinner disks? Performance depends a LOT on this factor alone.

So If one uses a dual-core with a spinner disk, any antivirus will suck and slow the PC down a lot, if I use a 6core and SSD, you probably won't even feel it. That's why opinions are subjective.

Objective answers are the answers you can get from independent labs (avoid the mainstream "tests" as those are paid advertisements) and see statistics and compare on your own. For example https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/
The image speaks for itself

Comparing apples to apples.
Defender is NOT an antivirus only. It protects Windows files and your files from ransomware by restricting access to document folders and so you will never see your files renamed. It offers account protection (offline and online), antitamper protection, and many more while other antivirus offers less. My point tho here is when you have an APP that does 10 different things, it's not fair to compare it with an app that does 2 of those, even tho they are both antiviruses and you need to weigh this in.
It's like asking 1 person to do 10 things, another to do 2 things, and then wondering why the person that does 2 things finishes faster.

So my suggestion and subjective answer based on personal experience on my own PCs and clients' PCs is that Defender is an excellent program but you should check and form your own opinion. After all, why not test-drive it? Install a Windows with Defender, set it to which folders to scan and which not, let a couple of days pass, and see how your life is. If you don't like it, remove it with one of the many tools on the net.

Great reply. To the point

 

[Harry Hole]

I have used various antivirus internet security and such but late what's worked for me is Defender, but I also use DefenderUi makes it easier when installing wares and then as back up I have the usual
free programs
Malware bytes
Malwarehunter
Superantispyware
Spybot
esetonlinescan
awcleaner
if I have been busy I might use these once a week or if I have a panic on if I have not been so busy not so often
😁

 

[Wichestery2k]

defender I hate it... since day 1! lol

 

[znop01]

As a rule, I avoid using a 3rd party application if Windows can perform the same function. I use Windows Defender and trust it implicitly as it hasn't failed me yet.

 

[Mr. Spacely]

Everyone has a different answer / opinion. Panda Dome is my preferred. With that said, thread closed now.